Friday, July 7, 2023

Cycling SE Asia ... Leg one, Vietnam

Our Intrepid Travel tour begins, full quota of 16 clients:

·        3 USA: Ron, Christine and Mari

·        2 Aus: Katrina, Cecil

·        1 Irish: Rob

·        1 UK: Tom (delayed arrival due to flight issues)

·        9 (!!) NZ: Martin, Bill, Mark and Julie, Steve, Joel, Michael and ourselves

Not so much a mix of ages compared to the Japan group. A couple probably still 30’s, couple maybe late 30’s and all others 60+. Bizarrely Mark and Julie are from Frankton, and Mark is brother of Gavin Hillary who we know… small world!!

Trip outline sounds great, but perhaps arduous with some very long days to come. All out for dinner (bus there) at a restaurant run by trainee under-privileged kids, a very nice meal before back to bed around 9pm. A very hard bed which has upset my back a bit.. I can see an anti-inflammatory or 2 over the next wee while.. also stomach a bit upset, likely due to the huge mix of food for the day.

25 June: Sunday… 20kms

8am leaving and on the bus for a bit of a walking tour initially:

Stopped at Ho Chi Min mausoleum, then walked close to his official residence … a huge French inspired mansion… then through his more modest home (he was never married) and finally through a very small house made by a northern Vietnam tribe for him. This is where he spent his final years.. it included a bomb shelter in the gardens, and a very confined peacock alongside a lake with resident fish.


Viewed 2 pagoda’s in the area, one not that old (single story) and the other very old (1000 AD).

Back on the bus before being dropped at the temple of intelligence … again very old .. where the top soldiers in the country competed to be in the chosen elite guarding the nation.

Lots and lots of people at these places, the temple of intelligence had offerings from people (fruit, and even kit-kat's), people lighting incense etc.

Vietnam has 4 animals of importance historically: the turtle, the phoenix, the unicorn and the dragon. So the temples had numerous statues of these.


Then it was a drop off at the Intrepid headquarters were we changed into bike gear and presented with our steeds, Giant MTB’s. There is only 2 e-bikes out of 16 so I’m thinking we won’t be the most unfit as there is some ‘big frames’ amongst the group!

Once adjustments all sorted, we biked into the Hanoi streets… around the edge of the big lake and then into Old Town. A bit scary at times as seemingly biking the wrong way down streets, through red lights, weaving between crowds of people, scooters and cars… although surprisingly the traffic is pretty good around and through us!

A stop for lunch at a Pho skewer place, by then 2pm so after it was just back to the hotel for free time. We walked from the hotel towards the Old Town in the evening. Sunday night is market night so it was a busy old place, the centre of the streets closed off and people all had stalls set up to sell, sell, sell. Mainly clothes, shoes, sunglasses etc… so much stuff… and the locals seem to eat their dinner out on the foot path’s as well, must be a Sunday treat.

We just had banana cake and croissants for dinner, we need a break from the meat and noodles. A bit skittery so very keen to get rid of it, tomorrow is our homestay, with 8 people at each place so not the ideal place to be sick!! Taking an anti-inflammatory to help my back and to help sleep… I sound like a wreck!

26 June: Monday. 64km 

7.30am departure from Hanoi in the pouring rain, travelling by bus for 2 hours to the small town of Hao Bin where our bikes were sitting, lined up and waiting to go!


Biking a km or 2 on a main-ish road crossing the Black River (I think) which was a very wide red silt river before heading down a quiet riverside road passing through villages, rice fields and by 1 or 2 grazing buffalo.

After 15km the first of our snack/break stops, the pace has been pretty fast with most riding up front behind Tong… Noel, Michael (a very big NZ-er) and I along with the tail end bike mechanic bringing up the rear. From there another 15km before another snack break… lots of fruit, nuts, snacks, lemonade etc, very good provisions. We got absolutely soaked on this leg in a heavy downpour but dried very quickly in the heat!

Amazed at the standard and style of housing, lots of skinny 2 storied concrete houses obviously quite new and built with skill. Lots of people out working in the fields, a little bit of traffic and a few hello’s from the oncoming scooters … especially from young people (many school kids on scooters vs cycles). Had lunch at Man Duc, a bigger town set in against limestone hills a bit like Ha Long Bay but no sea!

By now the rain was over and the road was dry and we wound our way by bus to the top of a pass. Bikes ready for us at the top and we free wheeled about 10km downhill which was great fun. Very courteous traffic, not a lot of it, which would pass on the opposite side of the road seemingly oblivious to what might be coming around the corner!

From there it was following concrete paths through clusters of houses and winding between rice fields using the same paths farmers use for access. Rice seedling stage where they make a small mud area in which seeds are planted, covered and then transplanted into the larger field later.


The area is Mai Chau and we wove through villages, lots of produce/local product markets etc much of which was made by the local Thai bred people. Also people shuttles shuffling tourists around. We stayed in Poon Long at a traditional Thai homestay. Open dining area at the bottom and a communal sleeping area upstairs. All of us together apart from 3 who slept downstairs in the open area. Better than expected, hot showers available and a lovely meal. An early night with a few snorer’s to ignore. My stomach upset has come right thankfully.


27 June: Tuesday. 76km

Our homestay worked out just fine, much better than expected. A 20min bus ride initially then saddled up the bikes on a side road/path and biked through farmland, rice fields, some cattle. Lovely bigger undulating hills and getting lots of waves/hello’s from kids and some of the adults. Biking on a fine morning after a thunderstorm night, arriving at our first break stop which was a half built house. However the clouds are gathering and it started to pour with rain, luckily the building was open at the bottom so we were all able to shelter there … while the tour crew attempted to repair Mark’s e-bike, again!, it is giving him a lot of trouble. Timing was perfect as by the time all set to go the rain had stopped.

Continued through undulating hills passing villages, getting lots of waves, hello’s and the odd finger gestures plus one or 2 kids yelling out for money… but a really nice ride nonetheless.


Back on the bus along the Ho Chi Minh Road to stop at a little roadside restaurant, seem to duelling with an Intrepid family tour who have 2 days of cycling along the same route as us hence joining up at the same lunch spots too. A smaller group, maybe 8. Post lunch back on the bus for 10mins before cycling cross country again through valleys that are surrounded by limestone hills. Very picturesque with lots of people in the rice fields planting with the hills as a dramatic backdrop. Very, very hot so as the day progressed a few got on the bus instead of biking. At the end we were very pleased to see the bus stopped to pick us all up… we’re knackered!!! And muddy, gritty, grimy and sweaty!!


Fast road drive of around an hour through big towns, lots and lots of industry, big buildings of “something”, one factory obviously Hyundai Vietnam. A number of concrete plants, apparently what the richest Vietnamese own I guess due to the obvious high demand for concrete in housing, roads, paths etc. There were some big churches also being built. A very industrial area but some of the housing have a look of wealth about them.

Arrived in city of Ninh Binh about 5.30pm, everyone pretty tired!!.. or nearly everyone… a very wealthy/modern town.

7pm dinner at the hotel, no-one could really be bothered finding alternative, pretty average but filled the gap. Again thunderstorm rain this evening. Getting a bit saddle sore, wet pants for 2 days doesn’t help as well as discovering the extra seat pad (which I initially thought was a bonus) doesn’t help as it soaks up the rain and remains wet!

28 June: Wednesday. 46km

Based here for day so a short bus ride out into the heat, 34c with lots of sun so felt like 40c. Biked through the area known as “on land Ha Long Bay” before looping around quieter roads behind Ninh Binh. Possibly filling in time a bit, the heat had one of 2 of the tour dropping out and taking the bus.


The limestone karsts around Ninh Binh have been classified as UNESCO feature, which gives them protection from the concrete industry! They are stunning visually so definitely worth the save.

Lunch at a local restaurant, area speciality is goat meat which was OK. When going along roads you see whole roasted goat with the stall owners slicing off what the customer wants, not such a pleasant sight. Also passed some serious duck farming areas, wet/rice paddies, big ducks and areas of small nearly feathered ducks.

Also saw some rice being threshed by hand and dried on the road, some roads actually still busy roads, with farmers spreading it out and turning it over and over. Doesn’t seem to matter if vehicles drive over it … guess it helps the threshing! Grain then spread out to dry, protected by a couple of plastic chairs in lieu of road cones!

Following lunch a visit to Hoa hu, the ancient capital of Vietnam under the Dinh Dynasty and a walk around the temple. But with the heat there wasn’t too much interest.


Back to the hotel where we have been doubled up with others in the group so that we have access to a room for a shower and cool down, and quick catch up. Tonight we are on an overnight train to Hue so leave this hotel at 7pm for dinner before our departure at 9.30pm. A 12 hour trip so can’t imagine we will be feeling so wonderful tomorrow… although a short ride day planned, on new bikes with a completely new support crew (apart from guide Tung) as our current crew return to Hanoi.

A fun dinner at an open air restaurant opposite the railway station on a pleasant evening. A few locals out dancing on the gardens in front of the station … ended up with a few of our group joining in for some laughs.

Tung assigned rooms on the sleeper train, we are sharing with Julie and Mark Hillary. Train station very busy with quite a few tourists and a lot of locals. Lots of kids there that wanted to practice their English on the tourists. Julie was talking to a 9 year old that obviously had a prepared list of questions but was very fluent, quite amazing.

Onto the train, 4 bunk cabin which is very clean and tidy. Julie and Mark promptly took sleeping tablets and zonked out, no issue for them! To be honest we both also slept reasonably well considering so it worked out good all round.

29 June: Thursday. 19km

8.30am arrival to disembark at Hue, very basic train station, straight onto bus and taken to hotel so we could change into cycling gear and leave luggage although no rooms available yet. Back onto bus and ride to get to our new bikes, Giants, and mine seems really nice!!

Biking we went although its hot, 36-37c, for some 10km. A bustling busy city with a centre of the Imperial Citadel.

First stop for snacks and then visit to the royal tomb of Emperor Tu Duc which was built in 1864-67. Tu Duc had the longest reign of the Nguyen dynasty … along with 104 wives, but no children! so ended up adopting 3 sons. 2 died soon after adoption whilst the 3rd ruled for 7 months after Tu Duc death.

Tu Duc designed his own tomb and that of his wives, family etc. So a large complex of varying temples, shrines with hardly any people so nice to wander around.

5km of riding had us at our lunch spot, with other tour groups, then a few more kms riding to the imperial city, a walled enclosure within the citadel. The city contains palaces for the imperial family along with shrines, gardens including a bonsai garden. A huge area that once again wasn’t too busy so a pleasant wander around.


At our lunch spot it was 35c, which was outside under a roof with fans going, and thunder rattling around although it didn’t come our way… perhaps cooled things down by a degree?


Back to the hotel by 4pm after a little more riding. The streets are busy with not quite such forgiving motorists but obviously a tourist town. Out for a drink with a few of the crew before whole group headed out to dinner at a flasher sort of place, very nice. After dinner we wandered around the streets a little, lots of night life, before back to the hotel after almost getting lost… must take more note of hotel names in future!

Writing diary to the sound of music pumping from somewhere nearby…

30 June: Friday. 80km (total tour for day, not us individually)

7.40 hotel departure by bike from hotel and straight through a fresh food market, lots of scooters on-coming plus some going our way along with people walking, pushing etc… quite chaotic but short lived.

Wound our way via river paths, mobs of ducks fenced in on the river, to stop at a historic walking bridge over a small tributary beside a large river that apparently often floods. Thereafter it was quiet road cycling and it was hot, very hot!!


20km riding before drinks break, then another 20km section. 37-38c and with no shade so extremely tough. I was 2nd last with Noel sticking with me to keep me company. Next stretch 12km before a bus trip to lunch so I sat that stretch out, along with 4 others in the group, as I was just so hot! A cruisy 12 km then for me, before all on the bus for a 45min drive to town of Ancu. A very busy restaurant, seafood, oysters in shell, fish stew with bones, and other fishy things. There was a huge locals party a table away.. quite rowdy and lots of beer being drunk there.


Back on the bikes for a ride around the estuary edge (10km), a bit shady so cooler which was nice as well as storm clouds brewing. A drinks stop at the bottom of the Hai Van (ocean cloud) Pass and while 4 of the group sat it out on bus the rest of us left just as the rain started. Obviously a bit of testosterone in the air as well as a “King of the Mountain” title to be had; Bill got there first, (a retired Doctor from Christchurch). Anyway, we just slowly zig zagged our way up, a main road but there is an alternative tunnel route which absorbs most of the traffic. Hence mainly scooter traffic and the odd truck going over the pass.


10km either side of the pass, a very scenic 500m asl road, a slow steady climb with the rain easing off 1/3 of the way up. Lots of scooter drivers, and a chap outside a house, all shouting encouragement which was heart-warming. After a stop at the top for refreshments and to absorb the view it was an enjoyable downhill towards the city of Da Nang.

Back on the bus to a 1 ½ hour drive to Hoi An, a very pretty (inner city anyway), very touristy town. Lots of flowers and lanterns everywhere.

Out to dinner with the group, everyone very tired, then a quick look at a tailor shop. Too pressured and nothing leapt out at me anyway. Wandered around the night market where obviously bargaining is a must if you wanted anything. Saw one dress I liked enough to enquire about although the wrong colour it was probably the right size. Couldn’t be bothered to even try it on, too hot, but the price dropped from 550,000 to 200,000 by time I left and I hadn’t even asked! Happy hour, closing special etc etc


Back to the hotel and a well earned rest.

1 July: Saturday. No biking

8am start and a pleasant surprise of an open taxi to take us to our walking tour of the old town. Shops just opening and not many tourists about yet… but the heat is coming on!!

Hoi An was a busy port town for Chan people before the river silted up. Chinese and Japanese influences are obvious, a very attractive town. Following the walking tour it was back to the hotel for a lie down and a swim in the hotel pool.

Went and found a lovely trendy bakery just down the road for lunch, thanks google maps/reviews. Laundry returned, while the white things aren’t spotless everything is clean smelling and cheap to get done so very pleased.

A lazy afternoon including a second swim in pool before we wandered down a small side street on way to old town and found a great family restaurant with obviously a few westerners in it. Got talking to a Tasmanian couple at the next table, there were there for 3 weeks this year and have booked for 6 weeks next year. A wander through the old town to finish off the day, lots of families and activities while we had a bit of a half hearted look for a shirt for Noel. Back to hotel by 9pm

2 July: Sunday. 51km

Cycle departure 7.30am and through some streets before very quickly out into the rural areas again, rice and water buffalo,  as well as a whole lot of new beach apartments before crossing over a massive bridge before back down to the sea with lots of fishing boats.

A stop in the shade for some photos, the group moved off again and disappeared around a corner whilst the last few (including us) were putting helmets on etc, to set off less than a minute later. Thought we were on right track until came to a dead end … we had obviously lost the tail end of main group as well as our tail end mechanic who had been on phone had also disappeared not knowing we were on wrong path, um!!


The 5 of us went back to the last stopping point and managed to message Tung… another 15 minutes later the mechanic came back to find us having caught up with the main group to discover 5 were missing!! So, caught up with main group and all well, and then a drinks break some 10 minutes later.

Wound around roads for another 15km or so, nothing great at all, just around the side of a golf resort on a section of double laned road beside hotels, a Disney type complex viewable in the distance and then rubbish, seemed to follow smaller roads all lined with rubbish as well as an awful lot of cemeteries… a bit of an odd ride section. Unfortunately 3 of us, Michael and us, got mis-mothered again at an intersection, and this time the tail end mechanic and Ron (another rider) didn’t turn up behind us which immediately had us concerned that we were lost again! Noel doubled back and found the mechanic and Ron sitting in a café!! (Ron feeling ill)… more time lost for Tung and us a bit annoyed as there should have been a bit more watching at intersections to ensure all were OK.. but all ended well.

Bus then loaded up and 1 ½ hour drive to a lunch break, beside a beach but in the middle of nowhere seemingly, then another 1 ½ hour drive following the coast. There is some huge developments underway, planned and some already there.

Back on the bikes before biking over the largest inland bridge in Vietnam, Thi Nai Bridge, over a sea estuary into the bustling town of Quy Nhon … right on rush hour!! The roundabouts were very busy and it was a bit of an adventure getting through but all arrived safely at our hotel about 6.30pm. An older style hotel right beside the beach, after a shower the rooftop bar beckoned … lovely … lots of neon lights and lots of Vietnamese with children on holiday, so a fun vibe.


After a drink, and an ordinary sort of meal at the hotel, we went for a walk along the beach … some of the group had already sea swum before dinner. Lots and lots of Vietnamese on the beach and adjoining parks, small amusement areas including bumper cars, Ferris wheels etc and just starting to run out of patrons at 9.30pm. The sea is very warm, and so is the air!!

3 July: Monday. 65km

Today is a potential 90 to 100km day, depending on how serious one is. 7.30am bus departure to get us out of town. One of 2 of us in group not feeling 100% but not awful… food? Its already hot, 35-36c.

Biked for 50km before lunch and it is getting extremely hot, probably in the low 40’s. Along a road that was not super busy but did have construction. Through a few cattle being tended on the roadside. By lunchtime a couple of the group were close to heat stroke and Michael had already pulled out with illness.

I opted out of the next leg along with 5 others, a 12km leg and bus showing outside temp of 44.5c !!! Noel battled that one out but bussed the next, I gave the next a go which was 16km weaving through towns on a small main road before opting out at next stop too … seems like madness in this heat just to tick the box!


The next section as we viewed from the bus was along double laned roads more or less empty although massive new developments (tourist?) being built along the coast. Beautiful sandy beach stretching in both directions for miles but so many hotels being built!

Meanwhile the keen of the group who wanted to do 100km continued along the beach roads, past an air-force base to an inconspicuous stop at a railway crossing … but yay, 6 finished there although only 5 did the whole 100km day, what a day given the heat, a couple nearly heat stroked out!!

On to our hotel in the city of Nha Trang. A very, very busy city with lots and lots of hotels built to cater for the Chinese and Russian tourists. Now full of Vietnamese holiday makers, city front runs along a beautiful golden sand beach. We opted to do our own thing for dinner, I was after chips to quell the queasiness! Found a Korean BBQ restaurant that had 4 customers, but at least 7 staff!!

There is a few tired folk in the group this evening.

4 July: Tuesday (no biking)

8.30am optional day today, breakfast a bit sparse but mainly as there is a schoolboy soccer team in house who had cleaned out the breakfast bar! A few of the group still feeling the effects of yesterdays heat, Tom our youngest in particular with a severe case of heat stroke.

13 of us (3 opted out) bussed then walked around Po Nagar temple. Built in the 8-13th centuries by the Cham people, it is a Hindu temple built for the goddess Yan Po Nagar. A massive number of Vietnamese tourists there!


It was then it was to the harbour to board a boat, stopped at an area of floating fish villages where 4 ladies in little round boats took us for a row around … which was quite tricky balancing!! Noel and I were the only passengers on one of these boats, and our little lady took us to her family fish farm platform so we got a close up look at the various fish and shell fish.


Some small sharks, sea bass (very cool looking) in very clear water. They catch the various species further out at sea then hold and feed them in the farming areas. Also presented with (well ended up purchasing) a cold coconut to drink… kept us going!

Back onto the bigger boat which took us out beside an island were snorkelling was able to be done. The sea is lovely and warm, saw piper fish, a few star fish, corral, angel fish, some other small fish of unknown type as well as unfortunately quite a lot of plastic and a bit of rubbish at the bottom of the sea too.

On to a different area beside another island where we linked up with 3 other tourist boats where another boat then brought in lunch for us all … a huge spread of seafood dishes. An opportunity to snorkel again, I opted out as the rubbish is somewhat off putting!!

Back to hotel for an afternoon at leisure and blog catch up. Noel has a cold or something so a bit subdued today.

Found dinner at a rooftop bar, which had a pool although we didn’t use it. Japanese food to order, could have had chips and a sandwich but went for Okonomiyaki and a beer. Watching an orange moon rise over the lit Ferris Wheel on an island. A walk around followed to a shopping mall, Noel scored a light cap to wear under helmet as needed. A stroll back to the hotel via the beach… how lucky are we 😊


5 July: Wednesday. 70km

7.30am departure again for a 25min drive to get us out of the city.

Biked through the countryside, cows and lotus flowers before our first stop, then seemed to be biking through Eucalyptus forests and villages. Nice quiet undulating roads. After our second stop we were warned of a hillier section so some opted for the bus. Noel was offered an e-bike by Mark so took up the offer. Quite a busy road that was up and down but it wasn’t awful. 60km done before lunch. (Noel not sold on the e-bike, although think it was the type of bike and Mark is continuing to have issues with it too and this is his second for trip!).

After a way too big a lunch, with a whole lot of wasted food, we bussed to the top of Bidoup-Nui Pass. A long winding road up to 2287m asl and the National Park which is considered the roof of the central highlands.

From the top of the pass we biked down 10km before the bikes were loaded into the van and we bussed to the city of Dalat, the city of eternal spring and also renowned as the Honeymoon city. The temperatures are cooler, coats and jersey required, it is located at similar metres asl to the Remarkables! The trip in passed huge areas of large tunnel houses and earthworks putting in more tunnel houses. Flowers, vege, strawberries etc. Also large areas of coffee grown in this area.

First stop was the summer palace of Bao Dei’s, the final emperor of the Nguyan dynasty and last to rule Vietnam in 1945. An art deco style building, didn’t look great from the outside but was nice inside with much of the period furniture still on display.

From there it was to the “Crazy House” which was built from Feb 1990 on by architect Dang Viet Nga who modelled it to simulate the image of old tree stumps in an old forest. A maze of up and down steps and vast concrete structures of trees etc. The architect was the daughter of the chair of the communist party … hence why it was allowed and quite possibly some communist funds disappeared into it’s construction!


It is still lived in, and several of the themed rooms are holiday rentals. Quite fascinating if somewhat of a Disneyland effect.

We independently went out to a lovely local pizza place… real local vibe, fantastic food and a pet bird that mimicked Noels cough, funny!

6 July: Thursday. 82km

Not so hot, and lots of downhills so the 80+ km wasn’t too exhausting.

Initial short bus ride before 20km mainly downhill section before a stop at a coffee shop. Followed by 16km through coffee plantations, corn, lettuce, tomatoes, spinach, egg plants and plants that grow silkworms. Silkworms grown on mulberry bushes apparently.

Back onto the bus for 1 ½ hours to end up at Gia Bac Pass, unloaded and 24km of mostly (although a bit “undulating”) downhill to lunch at a roadside café. While lunching there was a thunderstorm and heavy rain … great timing!

Final 20km downhill before 25min bus ride to Phan Thiet, a lovely beach resort hotel with private beach and pools. Unfortunately, the sea was dreadfully polluted according to the 2 or 3 of the group that tried to swim in it. But the pool was lovely! Lots of Vietnamese kids as it is school holiday period.

During the day we drove through some prosperous towns, some quite smart houses which are bigger than those to the north. Definitely seem like a bit of one-upmanship going on too. Obviously a very productive area although the tunnel houses disappeared as we dropped down towards sea level and warmer temps. There is also still a lot of the speciality, large, buildings built to attract birds for the production of nests used in birds-nest soup. Quite phenomenal buildings, look like hotels almost, and many have bird calls being broadcast on loudspeakers. Guides advise it is a very lucrative business.

7 of us dined at hotel, to be joined by 4 of the others who had partaken in quite a few wines … very entertaining.

7 July: Friday. 39km

After an amazing breakfast it was on the bus by 8am, a 30min ride out of the city. Onto the bikes and along beach road which wasn’t very busy. Massive development happening, new resort complexes going up and many half-built ones at a standstill. Behind the beach strip where the ground rises there was a lot of plantings and stabilisation work underway presumably for more massive development. It will be interesting to see it in 20 year’s or so. 2 bike sections of about 20km each this morning.

Beautiful coastline from a distance.

We have now finished the biking for this tour, after a coffee stop it was bussing 1 ½ hours to a lunch spot in a small family run restaurant under some trees. A one plate lunch each which seems far less wasteful than the whole lot of food often received.

From there another 2 ½ hours to Saigon/Ho Chi Minh City. The last hour was in very heavy traffic, passing lots of rubber tree plantations. This morning we had spotted dragon fruit plants which is a succulent/cactus type of plant. There is likely money in it as there is flash houses on the orchards!

Our hotel is a older type, but right on the river and on a main thoroughfare. The city is a whole lot more modern than expected, skyscrapers everywhere. A lovely clean room on the 1st floor, street facing so a bit noisy and smaller than we have become accustomed to … but absolutely fine.

Last group meal together, Tung took us to a food court/street food market which was humming! Tacos we chose which were yummy, in fact the whole town is humming, music, traffic and people. Most of us come back to the hotel around 9pm whilst the “young ones” headed out drinking.

A nice way to finish our tour with a very good group, will likely see some of them again sometime.

It’s been a fun tour … a lot of hard work, buckets of sweat, but great fun to get amongst it. The hello’s along the way has been uplifting, perhaps the naughty ones giving the fingers not so much (but only a few of them)

Huge, huge development in Vietnam and if they could sort the beach/sea pollution it has a very bright future. Although with 100 million people it needs to be progressive.

Such a great group of people to travel which resulted in, overall, a very, very good tour. Quite bizarrely the two times we got heavy rain we were stopped under shelters, perfect timing!!

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